{"id":112552,"date":"2026-02-13T16:22:20","date_gmt":"2026-02-13T21:22:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/?p=112552"},"modified":"2026-02-02T17:17:22","modified_gmt":"2026-02-02T22:17:22","slug":"what-counseling-teaches-us-about-serving-people-well-joshua-twiest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/blog\/what-counseling-teaches-us-about-serving-people-well-joshua-twiest\/","title":{"rendered":"What Counseling Teaches Us About Serving People Well: Joshua Twiest","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-start=\"345\" data-end=\"500\"><em>An interview with Army Chaplain Joshua Twiest on faith-integrated counseling, ethical ministry, and holistic care across military and civilian contexts<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"1174\">In this interview, Army Chaplain and Licensed Professional Counselor Joshua Twiest shares insights from a decade of military ministry and private practice. A 2008 Grace Christian University graduate with a degree in youth ministry, Joshua currently serves as a Family Life Chaplain at Detroit Arsenal, discussing the intersection of spiritual care and professional counseling in supporting military families and navigating complex ethical situations. With dual master\u2019s degrees in counseling and program evaluation, along with ordination as a pastor, Joshua brings a holistic approach to helping individuals across spiritual, emotional, physical, and relational domains.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1176\" data-end=\"1410\">The conversation explores bi-vocational ministry realities, managing professional boundaries with wisdom, and combining clinical excellence with spiritual depth while serving diverse populations in both military and civilian contexts.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"1417\" data-end=\"1448\">The Role of an Army Chaplain<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"1450\" data-end=\"1511\"><strong data-start=\"1450\" data-end=\"1466\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Tell us about your role as an Army chaplain.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1846\"><strong data-start=\"1513\" data-end=\"1531\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> I\u2019ve been doing chaplaincy for about ten years for the Army. What I share here isn\u2019t representative of the views of the government or the Army itself. My role is to provide for the religious freedom of soldiers and to serve as a resource for morale, ethics, and overall well-being while offering spiritual support.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1848\" data-end=\"2235\">At Detroit Arsenal, there are about 6,000 people. It\u2019s myself and a team of two others. I handle a lot of the counseling work. A family life chaplain is a licensed therapist who is also a chaplain, able to support soldiers from both a professional and spiritual perspective. That overlap has been especially meaningful, and people tend to respond well when those two areas work together.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"2242\" data-end=\"2290\">Program Evaluation<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"2292\" data-end=\"2399\"><strong data-start=\"2292\" data-end=\"2308\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Tell me about your master\u2019s in program evaluation. How does that contribute to your roles?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2401\" data-end=\"2681\"><strong data-start=\"2401\" data-end=\"2419\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Program evaluation looks at what we\u2019re doing and asks whether it\u2019s actually working. In large organizations, including the military and ministry contexts, we often implement programs with good intentions but without always stepping back to assess effectiveness.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2683\" data-end=\"3023\">Before coming to Detroit Arsenal, I worked in a primary prevention office in Lansing. That experience pushed me to want a deeper understanding of how programs are designed, implemented, and evaluated. Program evaluation helps determine whether interventions are being carried out correctly and whether they\u2019re producing meaningful outcomes.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3025\" data-end=\"3232\">It became important for me to understand data and research so I could help improve programs on both a broad level and an individual level. That mindset has carried directly into ministry and counseling work.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3305\"><strong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3250\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> That would be incredibly valuable in ministry as well.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3307\" data-end=\"3503\"><strong data-start=\"3307\" data-end=\"3325\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Absolutely. I just finished that degree recently, and almost every day I\u2019d learn something I could immediately put into practice. I can\u2019t recommend that kind of learning enough.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"3510\" data-end=\"3565\">Ethics in Ministry<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"3567\" data-end=\"3701\"><strong data-start=\"3567\" data-end=\"3583\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> I appreciated that you talked about ethics. There are rules and regulations, but there\u2019s also the spirit behind them.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3703\" data-end=\"4016\"><strong data-start=\"3703\" data-end=\"3721\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> In order to be effective, you have to have a strong sense of identity. As a chaplain, you don\u2019t just serve people who share your faith. You serve everyone. That means understanding who you are and how to ethically support people whose beliefs or experiences may be very different from your own.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4280\">If you don\u2019t understand your identity, it becomes easy for fear, pride, or self-preservation to override good judgment. Ethical questions rarely come up in neat, black-and-white situations. They usually show up in complex, human moments that require discernment.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4282\" data-end=\"4328\"><strong data-start=\"4282\" data-end=\"4298\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> So no two days look the same?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4330\" data-end=\"4471\"><strong data-start=\"4330\" data-end=\"4348\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Absolutely not. Not when you\u2019re working with people. That unpredictability is one of the reasons I was drawn to this work.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"4478\" data-end=\"4516\">Being a Light<\/h3>\n<p><img decoding=async data-opt-id=1757787008  fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-112773 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/josh-shaking-a-mans-hand.webp\" alt=\"josh-shaking-a-mans-hand\" width=\"1023\" height=\"1023\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:1023\/h:1023\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/josh-shaking-a-mans-hand.webp 1023w, https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:980\/h:980\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/josh-shaking-a-mans-hand.webp 980w, https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:480\/h:480\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/josh-shaking-a-mans-hand.webp 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) and (max-width: 980px) 980px, (min-width: 981px) 1023px, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4518\" data-end=\"4620\"><strong data-start=\"385\" data-end=\"401\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Do you hope that the way you live leads people to ask about the hope you have in Christ?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4622\" data-end=\"4890\"><strong data-start=\"4622\" data-end=\"4640\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> I like to think of it as a journey. I believe the Lord is drawing all people toward Himself. My role isn\u2019t to control that process but to walk alongside someone for a moment, being kind, offering peace, and reflecting Christ through how I treat them.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4892\" data-end=\"5021\">If I can walk with someone for a short stretch of their journey, I trust that God will continue that work through others as well.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"5028\" data-end=\"5058\">Managing a Private Practice<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"5060\" data-end=\"5140\"><strong data-start=\"5060\" data-end=\"5076\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> You also maintain a private practice. What does that look like?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5142\" data-end=\"5398\"><strong data-start=\"5142\" data-end=\"5160\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> At this point, I work with a small number of clients and prioritize clarity and confidentiality. In the summer, I can meet in nontraditional spaces, and in the winter, we meet online using secure platforms designed for confidential care.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5400\" data-end=\"5598\">I currently work primarily with children and their parents. When you work with children, you\u2019re always working with the family system too. That dynamic work is challenging but incredibly meaningful.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5600\" data-end=\"5654\"><strong data-start=\"5600\" data-end=\"5616\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Do you have a demographic you prefer?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5656\" data-end=\"5925\"><strong data-start=\"5656\" data-end=\"5674\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Military families are a group I really enjoy serving. I\u2019ve also found a lot of fulfillment working with families navigating unique or nontraditional dynamics. Helping families better understand themselves and function well together is rewarding work.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"5932\" data-end=\"5973\">Lifelong Learning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"5975\" data-end=\"6066\"><strong data-start=\"5975\" data-end=\"5991\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Counselors need to be lifelong learners. What does that look like for you?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6068\" data-end=\"6289\"><strong data-start=\"6068\" data-end=\"6086\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> I tend to use the word <em data-start=\"6110\" data-end=\"6118\">helper<\/em> rather than counselor, because counseling is just one facet of how I serve people. For me, that work has to be grounded in faith and an understanding of the whole person.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6291\" data-end=\"6530\">I\u2019m especially interested in continuing to learn about physical health, nutrition, and daily habits, because those areas affect emotional and mental well-being. A holistic approach allows us to serve people more faithfully and effectively.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6532\" data-end=\"6643\">My fear in my own journey is becoming stagnant. Growth keeps us grounded and responsive to the people we serve.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"6650\" data-end=\"6678\">Chaplaincy vs. Counseling<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"6680\" data-end=\"6766\"><strong data-start=\"6680\" data-end=\"6696\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> How does your work as a chaplain compare to your work as a counselor?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6768\" data-end=\"6993\"><strong data-start=\"6768\" data-end=\"6786\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Someone once told me that every conversation is a counseling session, and I\u2019ve found that to be true. Good counseling skills are really good listening skills, and good listening builds strong relationships.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6995\" data-end=\"7212\">Counseling is structured. There\u2019s a set time, place, and process. Chaplaincy is much less predictable. A brief conversation can turn into extended care, an unexpected visit, or a need that requires immediate presence.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7214\" data-end=\"7286\">That flexibility is a defining part of ministry in the military context.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"7293\" data-end=\"7327\">Military Leadership Development<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"7329\" data-end=\"7389\"><strong data-start=\"7329\" data-end=\"7345\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Does leadership development play into this?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7391\" data-end=\"7587\"><strong data-start=\"7391\" data-end=\"7409\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> The military is one of the strongest leadership development organizations in the world. People are often given responsibility early, and that can be both a gift and a challenge.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7589\" data-end=\"7809\">Part of our role is helping people grow into those responsibilities at a healthy pace. Some thrive quickly, while others need more guidance and support. Walking with people through that process is a key part of the work.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"7816\" data-end=\"7843\">Advice from 10 Years Ago<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"7845\" data-end=\"7923\"><strong data-start=\"7845\" data-end=\"7861\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> If you could go back ten years, what would you tell yourself?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7925\" data-end=\"8142\"><strong data-start=\"7925\" data-end=\"7943\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> I\u2019d tell myself it\u2019s going to be okay. Trust your calling. Practice gratitude consistently. Gratitude has a way of reorienting your perspective and grounding you, even when things feel overwhelming.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"8149\" data-end=\"8179\">Managing Dual Relationships<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"8181\" data-end=\"8247\"><strong data-start=\"8181\" data-end=\"8197\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> How do you manage dual relationships in ministry?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8249\" data-end=\"8429\"><strong data-start=\"8249\" data-end=\"8267\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Boundaries are essential. In smaller communities especially, relationships overlap. The key is knowing where those boundaries are and communicating them clearly.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8431\" data-end=\"8549\">When expectations are clear, trust is protected. Boundaries don\u2019t limit care, they actually make healthy care possible.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8551\" data-end=\"8616\"><strong data-start=\"8551\" data-end=\"8567\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> I love boundaries. They really are a safety net.<\/p>\n<h3 data-start=\"8623\" data-end=\"8658\">The Role of Family in Counseling<\/h3>\n<p><img decoding=async data-opt-id=881920354  fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-112772 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Josh-with-family.webp\" alt=\"Josh-with-family\" width=\"1536\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:1536\/h:1024\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Josh-with-family.webp 1536w, https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:1280\/h:853\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Josh-with-family.webp 1280w, https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:980\/h:653\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Josh-with-family.webp 980w, https:\/\/mlii5e30p1dq.i.optimole.com\/cb:hFP7.217\/w:480\/h:320\/q:mauto\/ig:avif\/https:\/\/gracechristian.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/Josh-with-family.webp 480w\" sizes=\"(min-width: 0px) and (max-width: 480px) 480px, (min-width: 481px) and (max-width: 980px) 980px, (min-width: 981px) and (max-width: 1280px) 1280px, (min-width: 1281px) 1536px, 100vw\" \/><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8660\" data-end=\"8725\"><strong data-start=\"8660\" data-end=\"8676\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Is there a question you wish I would have asked?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8727\" data-end=\"8912\"><strong data-start=\"8727\" data-end=\"8745\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> I wish we\u2019d talked more about family. Family systems shape so much of who we are. That\u2019s why my practice focuses on working with children and their families together.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8914\" data-end=\"9118\">When parents step back and remember the purpose of the family, to support one another and raise the next generation with intention, it often changes how decisions are made and how challenges are approached.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9137\" data-end=\"9200\"><strong data-start=\"9137\" data-end=\"9153\">Dawn Rogers:<\/strong> Thank you so much for coming and sharing this.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9202\" data-end=\"9300\"><strong data-start=\"9202\" data-end=\"9220\">Joshua Twiest:<\/strong> Thank you. 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